Including the book by John Eldredge, Wild at Heart. It was my own students who introduced me to the literature on Christian manhood that was incredibly popular back in the early 2000s. I'm a historian of gender and religion.Īlso, what I was observing around me as a new professor at Calvin University, actually it was Calvin College. What sparked it was a combination of my academic training. My interest in questions of evangelical masculinity go way back to the early 2000s. If you have a paperback edition, I tell a little bit of this story in the new preface. What was it that prompted your interest in the subject matter to begin with? It was written in the age of Donald Trump, of course. I think we should just establish the context of it a little bit. Well, more than a few hundred people have read this book and many of us have appreciated tremendously. We're thrilled if a few hundred people read them and appreciate them. As an academic, we're used to spending years working on projects. I mean that both in a qualitative way and also in a public fanfare sort of way, right? You're a historian, you write books, you study things, and this has been sensational I'm sure. I'm sure it's caught you somewhat off guard. You've been everywhere in the last months since the 2020 publication of this book. I think I'm sure that this is as I mentioned to you before, probably your 147th podcast. I actually didn't think about that, but I think there must be something subliminal about that I'm atoning for something. Well, I'm looking at myself right now on this camera and realize that inadvertently I put on my Mr. She is the author of the sensational book actually that has really captured the attention of many Christians in America, Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation. She is a professor of history at Calvin College.

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